Warmack vs Cooper

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by TitansWillWin2, May 22, 2013.

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Who would you rather have had the Titans get?

  1. Chance Warmack

    30 vote(s)
    88.2%
  2. Jonathan Cooper

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%
  1. titanbuoy

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    I recall hearing former Ravens scout Daniel Jeremiah on a podcast discussing drafting offensive lineman. He said of all the positions he scouted he always had a really good feel for grading o-lineman and was rarely wrong in his assessments. He thought where people often erred when grading lineman was placing too much emphasis on measurables and not enough on game tape, level of competition, and attitude. He said many of the best olineman have bad bodies, with a lot of weight in the butt and upper legs and have played collegiately at an elite level. These guys don't always excel at the combine. He maintained that often the leaner, super athletic, combine darlings struggle with their base against much stronger elite NFL defensive lineman (something that doesn't always show up against the lower level of competition in college ball).

    I already was quite happy with the selection of Warmack... this made me happier.
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  2. UrbanLegend3

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    I disagree...
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  3. Titan43

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    People put WAY to much stock in the combine. If I were a GM, the I would use the combine just to make sure players are healthy and as a tie breaker between 3 guys if I can't decide. My assessments on players would be 99% based on tape.

    I mean, if a guy us super athletic, but can't perform in college, what makes you think he will do it in the NFL?

    Good football player>good athlete


    Not saying this is true of Cooper... just in general.
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  4. Soxcat

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    I didn't think it was close between Warmack and Cooper for the reasons given above. It isn't about looking pretty out there. It is about not getting knocked back against what are gong to be elite DTs in the NFL. Warmack has the better build and has proven himself againt the better competition. And the one area Cooper has an edge in getting to the 2nd level Warmack is pretty good as well. Warmack is superior at not just getting knocked back but moving guys off the spot and is a perfect fit at RG for us.
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  5. JCBRAVE

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    Thats the way it should be, you're absolutely right.

    I mostly use the combine grades as a yes or no for guys Im on the fence about. I think its completely ass backwards to judge players based solely off combine times.
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  6. TitansWillWin2

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    Maybe he had terrible coaching and was being used the wrong way?
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  7. JCBRAVE

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    We call those 5th, 6th and 7th round picks.
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  8. TitansWillWin2

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    Unless your name is Chris Henry lol
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