Where is VY? (all things Vince Young goes here)

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  1. GoT

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    cause average numbers would be defined by, well, NFL average numbers
     
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  2. Alex1939

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    I don't know about that. Jake looks like he could put a damn good season if he stays healthy. Can't throw that ******* across the body throw but other than that I think he's looked fine the last two preseason games. And there is talent around him if he can just game manage.
     
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  3. Deuce Wayne

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    I think that's what his ceiling is- game managing.

    If he can dink and dunk like he did tonight during the season, I'd be more than happy with that.

    The early game turnovers, the freaking out the moment the pocket closes, etc need to stop though. And eventually he has to hit a WR in stride.

    This only being able to hit targets standing still while facing him isn't going to work long. Going to lead to many ints.
     
  4. Deuce Wayne

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    Uhhh...

    There were 21 QBs last season with a rating over 80. That's 65% of starting NFL QBs.

    ... I'm giving him a very fair shake on that one. 80 could even be considered below average.

    Moving on...

    17 starting QBs finished with over 60% passes completed. That's half of them. I'd say that's the definition of average.


    Now...

    20 QBs threw under 10 ints. Granted, not all started. The reason this number is low is because Jake won't throw the ball like most the QBs in the NFL. I'm not going to give him a huge cushion when he doesn't throw the ball down field.

    Actually, I will. Because I'm pretty confident he wont meet 60% accuracy nor an 80+ QBR... I'll give him a 17 int cushion.



    So...

    80+ QBR (average)
    60+ Completion % (average)
    -17 ints (average)

    Happy?

    All I'm asking is that he be average.
     
  5. Scarecrow

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    10 or below INTs for a full time starting QB is elite QB status. I imagine about 6 stayed under that last year. I know RG3 was one.
     
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  6. GoT

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    those numbers look better
     
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  8. Deuce Wayne

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    But again, we're talking about a QB like VY that wont be asked to throw the ball much. VY had 7 ints in yr 4. I don't think it's hard to expect Jake to limit his to -10 considering his longest throw will be a 15 yarder.
     
  9. GoT

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    he hit KB in the hands giving him the chance too make a play in triple coverage
     
  10. Scarecrow

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    You would be better off using turnover differential.
     
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