Zeitgeist

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  1. Puck

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    what do you consider the real world ?
    what you read in your newspapers and watch on CNN ?
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  2. Gunny

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    compared to watching an internet movie and reading conspiracy theories online?
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  3. GoTitans3801

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    There's a huge difference between making one of those arguments, and stringing as many together as you can and starting to look for whatever justification you can find.

    I have no problem looking at things critically, or realizing that significant things happen that will never be publicly admitted to. However, I don't think everyone's out to get me, or that "the government" and "corporations" are always doing evil things behind my back. Higher level government members know many things that they will never talk about. Most of them, however, are fairly mundane in the big picture. Most of them are screwups that had a huge impact, not massively planned successes.
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  4. Kid Gloves

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    I bought into it all at first. I've got a few more copies of it, then realized that I wasn't going to hand this horse pucky over to anyone as a gift, which was my original plan. To open the eyes of others, but under the guise of "opening your eyes" they've cleverly edited their point of view.

    I was exactly the opposite, Part I bothered me more than 2 & 3. They're trying to take away a complete belief system to instill the views in parts 2 & 3. That's why it was done that way.

    Next thing you know, your starting the next chapter of Heaven's Gate or heading to Jonestown to drink your Kool-aid. This stuff is part element of truth mixed with utter insanity and an agenda, which makes it quite dangerous. Take this as gospel? Never.

    The DVD copies make great frisbees, so I didn't spend $20 for nothing.
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  5. KamikaZ

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=z6utwfaXQfA


    Whenever I see conspiracy stuff like this, I always think of this clip. And GoTitans probably has more insight in the above post then that entire movie. Not saying that corruption isn't there, that the elite call the shots, and that the wealth is controlled by the few, while the gaps between rich and poor and being coming frightening large. But if you actually do a little history studying, this isn't some world-wide conspiracy that is anything new.

    It's frustrating when people just watch these things and accept them as true. Only good they serve is to spark individuals to go read a damn book. I'd have no problem with these, except too many people just watch these, are awe-struck, but make no move to go research for themselves. And even worse, people don't see the agenda in a lot of them, and that's just plain dangerous in certain hands. :sad2:
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  6. GoTitans3801

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    Excellent post, KamikaZ.
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  7. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

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    Doing the research for ourselves ruins the point of these movies. If they've got supporting evidence, there's no need for google searching. I'll take it!
    Mike Ruppert is the man though. Still better than all these types of films, because he just puts it all out there.
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  8. TorontoTitanFan

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    All the supporting "evidence" in Zeitgeist has pretty much been debunked. The filmmakers used very questionable sources and drew connections that don't exist.

    I absolutely love a good conspiracy theory, but if you take 20 minutes and actually look into this movie, you'll see that it's a pile of B.S.
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  9. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

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    Show us who debunked it. Because I constantly hear people say that (as they do about every conspiracy docu.), but I'm yet to see it.
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  10. GoTitans3801

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    I don't care if it's been "debunked" or not, whatever standard you want to set for that. I'm not wasting my time with things like this for all of the reasons that I've already posted. Sure, it's fun to think about extreme possibilities sometimes, it's another thing to believe that they're all real.
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