Titans are the only team in the NFL without an analytics dept

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by TorontoTitanFan, May 15, 2021.

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  1. GoT

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    the only ones I know of that are not based on common counter stats are the defensive stats & yes everyone seems to do their own thing there.

    As I understand it some assign a zone to a player and grid the field and players are rated if they play the balls in their zone correctly. Others attempt to wizard out the defensive data using traditional counter stats. Its better data now that defensive innings, hell pitches, are counted these days.

    And they all seem to have their own equation... some ignore 1B POs at 1B assuming 100% is the norm. Which seems fair at first except when one watches baseball a good 1B vs a bad 1B is obvious. Good 1B can extend and make a play on a throw that is not perfect where a bad 1B would be drawn off the bag resulting in a baserunner on first. One gets zero credit for making a play the other gets zero punishment for not making a play
     
  2. Doc

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    We have a strong Antics Department led by lewan. Pretty sure it’s not the same thing but it’s something.
     
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  3. TorontoTitanFan

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    You want proof that the Titans aren't using analytics correctly? Just look at their record with punting vs. gambling on 4th down. That is one of the easiest things to figure out with even a base level of understanding of the math, yet the Titans repeatedly get it wrong (including in the highest-leverage situations).

    There is a wealth of data and articles explaining all this, but here is a good place to start: Is the N.F.L. Over Punting?
     
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  4. HurrayTitans!

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    But is the titans or Vrabel? I think we see enough other gambles from Vrabel that an analytics person may be worthless. He makes weird decisions multiple times throughout each year and some end up super costly.
     
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  5. 10ECTyrant

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    Vrabel: “hold my beer and watch this!”
     
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  6. GoT

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    which I like better than never going for anything like fishface/Munchak

    to be fair fishface was a riverboat gambler... in the preseason.
     
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  7. MrBean

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    Do these analytics take into account the difference in punters ability?
     
  8. Johnnyb

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    True, except the coaches/FO have never commented on it, and won't say if they are or aren't.

    Why the veil of silence? It's not like saying, "no we don't have anyone on staff specifically for this, but do utilize a local analytics firm to help us out" gives you a competitive advantage.
     
  9. Johnnyb

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    The Browns had the same record as us last year, so yeah, I'd say it's going well for them.

    Also it's gone very well for the Ravens and Colts in particular, who are two of the top teams in the league at going for it on 4th down over the past few years. Both are known to use their analytics team pretty heavily.
     
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  10. Dman5TX

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    So the Browns had one good season... finally! They’ve been analytics driven for at least 5 years. Let’s go ahead and compare that sample size. Clearly some here missed the point.

    It’s all about how you use the information.
     
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