Firstly, I'm a VY fan, not a lover. Not a homer. Secondly, while I don't think he's a genius, I don't think he's stupid or an idiot. There are different forms of intelligence; and different methods/ways that people go about figuring out stuff. Also, I will be the first to admit that Vince needed a major attitude/maturity adjustment when he got here. So I think that it was his immaturity combined with his stubbornness that caused him to not learn anything. That in turn made people think he was less intelligent than he is. If you're stubborn, immature and think you know everything, and won't listen to anyone to learn anything, naturally people are going to think you're stupid. I feel sorry for your kids, or any child that you do have. You'll probably disown him if he ever quits any team sports he/she happens to play huh? Your close-mindedness and adamant refusal to see that he deserves another chance is garnering you no respect. Like I said, the score is a moot point. What's your response for Marino scoring a 9 and Harrington scoring a 35?