As I said, Canseco proved McNamee lied about Clemens involvement with Steroids. This is huge. As the party is the scene of the crime. McNamee said Clemens made contact with Canseco and discussed Steroid use. But Clemens was never there. oopsy. If he was lying about this, what else. It clearly never happened. Not only do you have a lie exposed, which is what this whole day was about, the truth, but you have the whole beginning of Clemens involvement with steroids wiped off the books. What lie is next. How did all this happen if it didn't? Where is the powder keg? How did it ignite? The McNamee story was destroyed here at it's very beginning. You have half the world saying Clemens wasn't there. And only McNamee saying he was. Big hole in the story. I'm not with you on this one at all. You are jumping A to C in my opinion. without the B. No logic to it. It's not like Clemens said go find McNamee and he will hook you up. That piece is missing. There's no link between McNamee Clemens and Pettitte. There is only one link made here, and it is hearsay. Yesterday was all about the Truth, so who are you going to believe. One sleeze who got caught in a lie like McNamee was wednesday ( the party, the evidence, and the quanity of activity ). Or the other guy who has not been caught lying or with his hand in the cookie jar. The credibility factor here is easy. Clemens is a better witness than McNamee. In any trial, anywhere, at any time. McNamee has already been caught in a lie about the party, he lied about the evidence he had, he lied about the number of times he shot up people, and all of this since he testified. Now he decides to come clean, or is it just more lies on top of lies. It's one big sharade no matter how you slice it. What will he pull out of his pocket next? No matter what his reasoning, he lied to Mitchell. He loses credibility with any jury. If he had said all of this for the Mitchell report, I'd go with it, but suprise, he pulls stuff out when it is convenient and that means he lied, or is making it up. Not good. Pettitte should have been able to sand blast Clemens, and he didn't. This is what bothers me. It is an issue of quantity here. And context. Pettitte only heard him say this once? Is that enough, or would you have liked him to say he heard this more than once, on numerous occassions, and saw him do it, and heard mcnamee say it too, and saw mcnamee do it, on numerous occasions. It's that lack of quantity that is key here. For two guys supposedly on the same track, best friends, and he can only mention one moment in time, one conversation, not more? One time, one sentence, it's just not definitive. There was no witness. There is no substance here. Pettitte didn't rat Clemens out, and that is what bothers me, if anything, he threw a nerf ball at him. So I don't see it the same way as you do, I see Pettitte as giving Congress nothing. It's like he didn't even snitch. We need more supporting statements, conversations, moments, and we don't have it.