Did any of your hear Madden referring to the "defensive quarterback" while explaining a play? 1st quarter, SEA on defense.... We got a huge laugh outta that! My older brother called me....he said, "I just saw the Stones, and that reminded me to call you"....the way it was presented sounded like a backhanded compliment....WTF did that mean??? :ha: I think PIT get some definate ref help. Guido and Vinnie protected their investment. Man, I hate saying that.