Trent Dilfer vs. Mark Schlereth

Well, in Big Ben's defense, his line was absolutely horrendous. Also, they may have had less turnovers and higher ratings, but are they better QBs? No... that's the point.


That was the 2007 season. This is the 2009 season. There's a big difference when he's coming off one of his worst performance of his career. Having a banged up shoulder doesn't help either.

 

I'm sorry if I haven't made my point CLEAR for you. Yes, for the first twelve weeks of the season he played better than most QBs in the league. How 'bout those last five weeks? Not so great, huh? Find me a (legit) QB who put up worse numbers in any five game stretch last season and I'll go jump out of my window >>> that's exaggerated btw! ... Good luck with that one because I'm pretty sure he threw 2 TDs and 8 INTs in the last 5 weeks... and even if you do find someone worse, I doubt you can find someone who threw up two lob interceptions in one game and threw an interception directly at a defensive lineman. Unless, of course, you want to throw VY's week 1 performance in there... which, sadly, is more impressive than Favre's performance against the Seahawks and Dolphins. Was Favre a good QB? Yes. Is he going to be effective enough to put a team in the Super Bowl? No... unless you put him on a horrendous team. Then he would look like a "diamond surrouded by trash."

I can see how you took that serious... reading back on it, it seemed a little foolish on my part, but I said I was exaggerating, yet you still can't understand that. I guess you've never said something that you didn't fully mean. My mistake.

If you throw 22 interceptions, you damn well better throw at least 35 touchdowns to make up for it. True, the Vikings won't be throwing the ball much, so why do they need a gunslinger who wants to throw the ball at least 30 times per game?

I said I would remember him for the most interceptions... I say that because I feel he is way too overrated. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are so much better it's not even funny. I hate Tom Brady, but I give him props. He throws so many touchdowns, yet much fewer interceptions. I know we're not comparing QBs here, but Brett Favre is far too overrated, and for that I will remember him for his NFL record (of most interceptions). That doesn't mean I don't think of him as one of the best QBs of his era. You missed my point.

 

Is everyone in La-La Land right now?

Seriously... Yea, I admitted he was good in the first 11 (not 12) games of the season. Realistically, he only had a few impressive games (Cardinals, Patriots, Titans). In all other games he was just average or very mediocre.

Yes, he is done. That injury is his demise. I don't think people realize that when a 39 year old, grey-bearded man gets injured like that, they're probably done. Why has he never had any other injuries of this nature in the past? I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that it's because he wasn't DONE! He's done now. I just think people are so used to Brett Favre being in the league that they can't accept it.

Yea, I tend to do that when people fail to understand my main point (and force me to discuss other issues) which is: Brett Favre is overrated and done... it's that simple. I understand it's the norm to be in love with this guy, but he has gone absolutely mad the past two years... When asked "Is it safe to say that there is no way you will ever play a game in the NFL again?" Brett Favre answered: "Yea, I can safely say that."

He, himself, said he was done, and he hasn't had reconstructive surgery on his shoulder. Done, done, done. Put a fork in him!

 

Again, you've missed the point. I'm obviously not saying that "whenever someone gets injured, they're done!" That's just ridiculous. How you took that out of context is beyond me. According to that assumption, CJ is done, Brady is done, Palmer is done, etc.

My point was: Brett Favre has gone through 18 seasons in the NFL without any major injuries... when it came to the end of last season (when he was 39!) he was injured... worse than ever before. This is very common with players... injuries at older ages while playing extrememly physical sports are a sign of being absolutely worn out and done.



/argument... it's not going anywhere, and we're all just repeating ourselves now.


P.S. wplatham, thanks for the high-five. I didn't mean to start a conversion/argument over this... I just went a little too far to express how much I'm sick of Favre and how much I wish to never hear from him again.